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LP/MB/NV/Indian-Tennis: Notes for the week ending on Apr 2, 2001
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Apr 2 Notes

Busy couple of days - sorry for a late update ..

Nirupama should be playing by Tuesday or so, at the big $75K+K Dubai challenger .. Niru is drawn to possibly face the top seed Elena Bovina (RUS,99) in the second round if she advances from her first round against a qualifier to be determined today [source: Gulf-News] .. It is never easy to play a qualifier when one is returning to tournament play after a few weeks off ..

LP, MB and Harsh must have reached Japan by now for Davis Cup starting on Friday, with Fazal already there .. Will have more on Davis Cup later today.

Fazal had qualified into the Japan F3 futures but lost in the first round last week to another qualifier Toshiaki Sakai, 26 67(4) .. In dubles, Fazal and Joseph Nesticky (CZE) were the top seeds .. They reached the QF beating Trent Aaaron and Benoit Boucher, 46 75 62 before falling in the QF to Jun Kato and Hiroki Kondo of Japan, 76(11) 36 46 .. Fazal should be practising with the Indian team this week.

I think Manisha, Sai and Rushmi may be taking this week off before proceeding to Taipei for Fed Cup next week.

PC Tejeshwar (#825) of Bangalore was at the grade-4 ITF junior event in Uzbekistan last week (he was sponsored by the Karnataka State Lawn Tennis Association's junior development program sponsored by an American company, as I reported earlier) .. He beat Artem Kudryavtsev (UZB) in the first round, but then lost in the PQF, 26 16 to Andre Khlebikhov (UZB,431) ..

The big junior team will be in Philippines for the grade-2 ITF event that completes their trip.

Mar 31 Notes

Manisha Malhotra gave a walkover to Shelley Stephens in the quarterfinal at the Australian satellite masters .. Not sure what the problem was - I hope she is not injured or anything .. We need her for the Fed Cup after next week .. In the doubles SF, Manisha and Nadia Johnston lost in the semis to Nicole Sewell and Beti Sekulovski, 36 46 .. Sai Jayalakshmi and Monique Adamczak also lost in the semis to the Dutch pair, Debbie Haak and Yolanda Mens, 67(3) 67(2) .. Will try to find if Manisha is OK.

Nirupama is in the player list at the $75K+H Dubai challenger starting on Monday .. I believe she is among the highest ranked players there, perhaps a low seed or among the top ten or so there .. Not sure how she is going to do this week, as she has been off the tour for about 5 weeks or so.

Mar 30 Note-2

Still no news from Australia on how the satellite masters QF went for Manisha ..

Some good news from Japan .. I hadn't notice that Fazaluddin had already gone to Japan .. Just found the qualifying results of the $10K Japan F3 futures at Isawa, Japan on clay .. Fazal was the top seed in the qualies and qualified in with three wins .. [Q1] Fazaluddin Syed d. Toshinori Hirata 6-0 6-1, [Q2] Fazal d. (WC) Katsuya Tozawa 6-0 6-1 and [Q3] Fazal d. Atsufumi Yoshikawa 6-1 6-4 .. IN the main draw, he was drawn right next to the top seed Takahiro Terachi, but had another qualifier, Toshiaki Sakai, in the first round .. No news after that, though the draws must have reached the semifinal stage already .. Nice to see Fazal in good form before the Davis Cup.

The other three members of the Davis Cup team, Leander, Mahesh and Harsh Mankad have been practising in Mumbai with coach Nandan Bal .. Captain Ramesh Krishnan joins them on Saturday before leaving for Japan this weekend .. Trainer Sanjay Singh reportedly said that everybody is in good playing form .. Mahesh seems to be stille expecting to play singles if all goes well.

Mar 30 Note-1

Qureshi beat Vajda today to win the satellite masters title at Mumbai and finish as the #2 player in the circuit .. Good work by him in the last two weeks, after he did quite poorly in the first two weeks and was at #10 spot going into the second half of the circuit .. See the Mumbai satellite page and the circuit points page .. There was one error in my calculations, after I cross-checked it with the official point tally released today .. Saurav Panja does NOT get an ATP point even though he played the masters leg .. The reason was that he had no main draw wins in any of the legs, which is a requirement .. I had forgotten that point!

I have added a page for the upcoming $10K Chandigarh satellite for women (starting April 16th) .. The entry list as of this Monday when it closed, is in that page .. Except for Manisha, all the other top Indian players will be there, with 11 already having made the main draw .. Not sure why Manisha is skipping it .. Not a super-competitive field in terms of foreign entries, but not too bad either .. The field is certainly about as good or better than in the previous $10 women's events in India .. This one will be followed by a $10K event in Pune the week after, for which the entries close next week.

No news yet about how Manisha did in the satellite masters quarterfinal in Australia today.

Very bad news from Thailand, as all our junior players once again failed to cross the quarterfinal hurdle of a grade-2 event .. 3rd seed Sunil Kumar Sipaeya let a golden chance go waste after getting a break to lead 4-3 in the second set, and lost 64 67(2) 36 to 9th seed Chris Kwon (#85) of USA, a very talented player who always seems to do very well in the eastern circuit, having won a few titles there .. Sunil should have won this though .. 2nd seed Prakash Amritraj (USA) also was upset today, 64 75 by 12th seeded Luka Gregorc (SLO) . Here are the excerpts from The Nation (Thailand) - "In the beginning I tried to go for everything and lost, but I knew I would get back my rhythm. I knew I had the chance if I won the second set as he looked tired,'' said Kwon (about the match against Sipaeya) ... In today's semi-final, Kwon meets South African Heinrich Heyl, conqueror of top seed Jonathan Chu of the USA on Thursday ... Gregorc was not intimidated by the serve-and-volley game of Amritraj as he won points either through good passing shots or unforced errors by his rival. "Both of us did not play well. I tried to remain tough mentally, and it helped me win,'' said the Slovenian, who takes on local hope Pramote Malasitt. ... So, that's that for this week! .. Sunil seems to still need some toughening up, stamina and focus-wise .. Based on just the results (I've never see him play :-)), I still do not feel that he is ready to move to the next level, but he is definitely playing much more steady tennis these days than he was a few months back and has played quite a lot more top-100 players this year, as he has been moving into the latter rounds rather than getting upset early at many bigger events like last year .. As for Prakash, well, I don't believe that serve-and-volley skills win singles matches on the tour anymore as the primary style, however well one plays it (Prakash is strongly built and is very very good at it, by all accounts) .. Except in doubles .. No wonder that Prakash is ranked near top-20 in doubles but at around 60 in singles .. That was just a personal opinion on serve-and-volley, though that is the kind of tennis I enjoy most, to watch! .. These baseline ground stroke machines from around the world know how to play steady enough tennis to beat the serve and volleyers .. I think I have said this before too .. but I am no expert on this, and perhaps I am wrong in writing off that style .. But damnit, that's really how tennis was meant to be played! .. No disrespect, but look what Lendl did to this game :-) ..

Anyway, it's disappointing because I had expected that at least one player would cross the QF hurdle at a grade-2 event as we had four players there in the QF .. All four lost - only Sania Mirza faced a higher ranked player, that too .. Vinod and Sunil reached the SF in doubles but fell to the 3rd seeds Pavel Ivanov (RUS) and Jacob Olsen (NZL) , 36 67(7) .. They had had a very good QF win yesterday though, 26 60 76(1) over the 6th seeds Jonathan Chu (USA) and Pramote Malasitt (THA) who had won the title last week at the Singapore grade-2 .. Sewa-Sipaeya had beaten Rohan Gajjar and Clinto Letcher 75 64 in the second round after a first round bye .. That finishes the Mali Milk Cup for us, and the players move on to Philippines for the last week of the trip ..

Mar 29 Notes

Marach finally, fell today - to Ivan Vajda, who along with Aisam Qureshi have done excellent last-ditch work to pick up a lot more ATP points .. 3rd seed Qureshi beat 2nd seed Derepasko today .. Actually I was not correct in what I said yesterday that he would assure a second place finish behind Marach with today's win .. I hadn't thought of the possibility of Vajda upsetting Marach and going all the way to a title .. Vajda had only 17 points coming into the final leg, with two first round losses along with a final earlier .. He now has a chance to finish second with 48 circuit points, one point above Qureshi if he wins tomorrow .. See the Mumbai satellite page and the circuit points page.

Two of the three Indian quarterfinalists played today in the Thailand grade-2 event .. Tough day there for both .. #11 Amanjot Singh was upset by #16 Pramote Malasitt of Thailand .. Pramote has been on a good upswing in the last few months and had reached a QFat the grade-2 last week .. He is also a player whom Amanjot had beaten 61 61 in Malaysia last November .. Malasitt followed that bad loss by winning two events in Thailand (he upset 2nd seed Vinod Sewa there) and Vietnam .. He had reportedly said yesterday that he was concerned about playing Amanjot and about how much better he would have to play to beat him .. But it was Amanjot who had everything go wrong today, as he lost 64 16 06 .. Here is the review from The Nation, Thailand - "Pramote, the last Thai surviving in the tournament, had a brief bout of nerves at the end of the first set, which he lost 4-6. But his Indian opponent, who was obviously frustrated by some contentious line calls, choked in the next two sets and allowed Pramote to run away to a 6-1 6-0 victory - and a place in the semi-finals tomorrow ...  "I hit the balls well, while he was not happy with line calls and missed so many shots. To be in the semi-final is well beyond my expectations and is the best result I've ever had,'' said Pramote, who will meet the winner of the match between second-seed Prakash Amritraj, an Indian based in the United States, and Slovenia's Luka Gregorc" ..  O, shoot .. Come on Amanjot, cool down dude! :-) .. That is the "homecourt advantage" players get and it's part of life in the circuit (apparently everywhere except in India :-)) .. One just has to live with it .. I am sure Amanjot will slowly learn from this experience .. He is very talented (and some say he is good guy too, despite the bad press) and that is the reason why Paes-en-Sport has been supporting him through his troubles .. In fact, I have heard comments from some tennis folks that he may be more talented than even Sunil Kumar and others - with a mean competitive streak and proper physical tools as well .. He just needs to learn from such matches and figure out how to keep his cool on court, without cutting down the aggressive streak .. That's not easy sometimes for competitive teenagers .. He is young, and has one more year in the juniors - with a ranking going close to top-80 already .. Hopefully it will all work out well in the long run for him .. Good job reaching the QFs in successive weeks in grade-2 events, both times while not seeded in the top-8 .. That means he has done more than what is expected of him.  Two grade-2 QFs are similar to winning two grade-5 titles, in points gained.

The other bad news was that the 5th seed Sania Mirza went down to the top seed Angelique Widjaja (INA,21), 36 57 .. Though it was a straight sets loss, I am quite encouraged how closely this 14 year old played a much more accomplished player who is two years older than her .. Angelique is now the Asian #1 (Angelique had won last week's grade-2 events in Singapore and is pushing into the world top-20!) .. The quarterfinal here would give Sania 30 pts which will add 10 more to her best-6 tournament total (ITF counts only 6 tournaments in the grade-1 and below level) .. Sania will go up a bit closer to top-60 and now has a realistic chance of making the remaining three grand slams this year - which is quite an accomplishment at her age.

Two quarterfinals each on the girls and boys side will be played tomorrow .. Sunil Kumar plays the American Chris Kwon (86) -- this will be a tough match too .. Prakash Amritraj (USA) plays Luka Gregorc (SVK).

Nothing much else going on, so it gives me time to talk about junior tennis news!

Manisha and Sai are schedule to play singles QF and doubles SF tomorrow (Friday) in the Australia satellite masters.

Mar 28 Note-2

Good news from Thailand today .. #3 Sunil Kumar, #11 Amanjot Singh, #5 Sania Mirza and #2 Prakash Amritraj (USA) have all reached the QFs at the grade-2 ITF event in Pattaya City, Thailand .. Sania beat Thassha Vittayaviroj (THA) in yet another diehard fight, 62 06 76(8) .. She missed two easy smashes on two match points, but also fought off two match points for Thassha, before winning it with a service return .. No other details or scores yet [source: The Nation, Thailand] .. Amanjot Singh won 64 62 over Joseph Aarum (NOR,143) who had upset the 5th seed Jason Zimmermann (USA,77) 63 75 in R2 .. Sunil Kumar won 64 64 over Michal Piotrowski (POL,223) who had upset the 13th seed Craig Evans (GBR,101) earlier .. 16th seed Rohan Gajjar lost to the top seed Jonathan Chu (USA,46) .. That is good work by our kids there .. Coach Sandeep Kirtane seems to be getting the kids to settle down and play like they are capable of, at a very competitive event .. Reaching at least a semi and picking up 50 ITF points is what can be considered a good achievement at a grade-2 event and our kids still have work to do, but this is still the best show we have had in a long time at the Mali Milk Cup - actually since a 16 yr old Harsh Mankad reached the final there and went down in three sets against Paradorn Srichaphan five years ago!

Mar 28 Note-1

At the Corowa satellite masters (draw of 16), Manisha Malhotra reached the quarterfinal today, beating Rochelle Rosenfield (AUS), 63 76(6) .. Rushmi Chakravarti could not repeat her upset of Monique Adamczak from last week and went down 16 46 in the first round today, though .. I believe Rushmi will get 2 WTA points for qualifying into the masters draw .. Manisha has picked up 3 points .. Some of the first round matches are on thursday, and so Manisha will be playing the QF on Friday .. In doubles, Manisha and Sai have reached the semifinal stage .. Sai and Monique Adamczak went after the second seeds Simona Arghire and Remi Uda for a 60 60 upset! .. 4th seeds Manisha and Nadia Johnson defeated the American pair Annica Cooper and Michelle Faucher, 62 75 .. Good going out there! .. Manisha and Sai will be in action on Friday again.

At Mumbai, the top three seeds (Marach, Derepasko and Qureshi) reached the semifinals of the satellite masters, but the 4th seed Donovan september had shoulder trouble and retired at 06 15 against Ivan Vajda, thus losing a bunch of more ATP points he could have had with a win .. Marach has now won 17 matches in a row (holy cow!) .. It's impressive to see him keep going even though he had already reached very near the maximum ATP points by the final of the last leg itself and really only gets one extra point each for each win here in the masters .. Qureshi and Derepasko stood to gain 3 or 4 extra points for each win in the masters .. As you may know, the conversion graph between circuit points and ATP points rises steeply from about 30 circuit points (7 ATP points) to about 55 circuit points (25 ATP points) .. After that, it flattens out .. Marach has 79 circuit points now, with 29 ATP points .. He is assured of finishing as the circuit topper who gets an extra 6 more ATP points also .. The current second place player, Derepasko, meets the 3rd place player Qureshi in the match of the circuit tomorrow .. The winner will pick up 7 more circuit points to add to the 44 and 40 points they have respectively (14 and 12 ATP points) .. A win is worth 4 or 5 more ATP points, but in addition the winner will be assured of the second place finish for the circuit, thus getting three more extra bonus ATP points .. So, expect them to go after each other .. See the Mumbai satellite page and the circuit points page.

The news isn't bad so far from Thailand .. Three Indian boys and Prakash Amritraj of USA have reached the final-16 stage of the grade-2 ITF events, along with Sania Mirza on the girls' side .. The boys were all seeded, with Prakash as the 2nd, Sunil as the 3rd, Amanjot Singh as the 11th and Rohan Gajjar as the 14th, all having first round byes .. Unseeded Nishank Mishra (IND,153) went down in the first round to Nick Crawley (GBR,243), 36 36 and Stephen Amritraj (USA,172) beat Adam Jaya (Malaysia,275), 67(4) 64 64 .. In the second round of the 64-draw, (3) Sunil Kumar (IND,70) d. Eui-Suk Jung (USA,169), 61 75 .. (11) Amanjot Singh d. Joseph Victorino (PHI,238), 64 61 .. (14) Rohan Gajjar d. Robert Searle (GBR,222), 61 63 .. Prakash Amritraj (USA,62) played Stephen in a family feud(:-)) and beat the younger cousin, 61 62 to reach the PQF .. The only seeded causality was the #7 Vinod Sewa (IND,82) who lost to Christopher Guccione (AUS,347), 36 46 in the second round after a first round bye .. I wonder if Vinod is not 100% right, now - he has looked bad in two losses, after beating two top-100 players to reach the QF last week where he lost 16 16 to a player he has beaten in the past (#74 Heinrich Heyl) ..

On the girls' side in Thailand, 14 yr old Sania Mirza pulled off a Houdini act, coming back from dropping the first set and then fighting off match points, to advance to the round of 16 with a 46 61 75 win over Darya Ivanov (AUS) .. Chia-Jung Chuang (TPE) d. Megha Vakharia, 60 62 and Kristina Czafikova (SLO) d. Sasha Abraham, 64 63 in the first round .. Both are expected losses though .. Chia-Jung is one of the most talented Asian players coming up (actually she was in the final of the Korean satellite two weeks back - reaching the final as a wildcard! .. She also beat the talented Adriana Szili last week in straight sets at Singapore) ..

Ranked #10 in US colleges, Ajay Ramaswamy continues to roll - he beat yet another top-100 player this week (this was a player from the Auburn University who had managed to upset #48 Harsh Mankad a couple of weeks back, actually) following his win over the #7 player last week .. Ajay told me recently that he had some confidence problems during a minor slump a few weeks back after he reached US top-10 too fast this season and started playing the #1 spot for his college .. It's always difficult to do that, as one keeps playing the #1 player for the other colleges .. This is one of the things that has been impressive about Harsh Mankad by the way - that he took up the #1 spot as a freshman in a top-25 program and has relished the responsibility .. Ajay also has settled in as the #1 player and he says he has regained his confidence .. That has shown in his continued wins against top-100 players .. 13 of them this year, so far .. Don't forget, Ajay left for the US much earlier than most players normally do, when he was just about 17 .. He had played only a bit of ITF junior tennis and had not had much news coverage in India .. He is still only 20  (turns 21 in June) and is already in his senior year in college .. It's very rare for somebody to graduate that early from a US college .. If I were to guess, that is another reason for him to show so much improvement during his college years, as he matured as a player with age and experience as well .. He is the "real deal" from everything I see .. By the way, Ajay mentioned that he did get an email from Davis Cup coach Nandan Bal, who wanted to see how he was doing .. It is always nice to know that those like coach Bal are staying on top of things.

Mar 27 Notes

At the Corowa satellite masters in Australia, Rushmi and Manisha are in the singles draw .. Play starts on wednesday there .. 3rd seeded Manisha faces Rochelle Rosenfield (AUS) in the first round and Rushmi faces Monique Adamczak (AUS) whom she had upset in the first round last week .. Manisha and Nadia Johnston are in the 8-team doubles draw as the 4th seed and will play Annica Cooper and Michelle Faucher (AUS) in the first round ..  Sai missed the satellite masters singles draw but is in the doubles draw .. This time she is playing with Monique Adamszak, however, rather than Rushmi .. They face the second seeds, Remi Uda and Simona Arghire.

As for the Mumbai satellite masters, well .. What can I tell you - except for two days when Vijay Kannan showed something in the second leg of the satellites (which he followed by losing all momentum with three consecutive straight sets losses), and a decent run that Nitin Kirtane had last week (both not really unexpected from those two players), the only real positive that I can find in the ongoing satellites is that Manoj Mahadevan continues to show improvement .. Yes, his development has been slow (to put it mildly), but the 19 year old has indeed shown improvement .. After having to play the qualies the previous three legs, he did very well to pull a minor upset in the final leg, before falling today in the second round after a tough fight with the 8th seed Michail Elgin, 67(1) 57 36 .. One thing I notice about Manoj is that he *never* seems to lose cheaply .. The last time I made that observation based on the results, it was about Vishal Uppal a couple of years back - though the 24 yr old has rarely shown that in a long time, especially ever since he got all the hype from a Savis Cup doubles match last year .. Right now, Manoj is one of the few I find who comes ready to play every damn time - win or lose .. I have no idea who is coaching Manoj these days (at one time, when he was a 16 yr old, he was under Ramesh Krishnan's watch in Chennai - not anymore, if I am not mistaken) .. Somebody should do something to give Manoj a little support and help with some coaching if he is not under any serious coaching .. As I am not in contact with Manoj, I don't know what his situation is .. Just writing my thoughts.

Anyway, back to the satellites -- the misery ended for Indians with three losses in the doubles first round today .. Fred Hemmes is the only unseeded player in the QF after he beat Tomas Cakl today .. See the Mumbai satellite page and the circuit points page .. I have added the doubles points also at that page .. Vijay Kannan and Manoj Mahadevan will end with 2 ATP points each, and the other four Indians will all have just one point each, in singles .. The sad thing is that, I have no doubt in my mind that they were all capable of finishing any where below the top-5 in the top-15 and pick up at least another 3-4 more ATP points, had they believed in themselves and kept their focus in fighting for every point .. Yes, this was a very very tough field to compete against, with over ten top-500 players .. The Indians could and should have finished right below those guys, with a couple in the lower part of the top-10 .. No doubt that they were capable of that .. But that was not how it turned out .. Darn, we missed Harsh Mankad and Ajay Ramaswami this time (not to mention Srinath and Fazal) ..  It looks like both Harsh and Ajay will be missing from the May satellites as well, because they will need to be playing the US collegiate national team and individual championships at that time - and cannot skip that.

No news from this week's Mali Milk Cup ITF grade-2 event in Pattaya City, Thailand, yet .. Stay tuned.

Mar 26 Note-2

I have started the page for the Mumbai satellite masters .. Today's first round results  are in .. Only the youngest Indian, Manoj Mahadevan had the will to stand and fight to advance today, and earn an extra ATP point .. See the Mumbai satellite page .. More later.

Mar 26 Note-1

Nirupama is expected to be back on the tour only next week at the Dubai $75K challenger .. LP and MB will be practising this week in India for Davis Cup too .. So, the main event this week will be the satellite masters, starting at the MSLTA courts in Mumbai .. After going to Nagpur and Pune, the circuit returns to Mumbai where it started .. The other event of interest for us will be the Australian satellites and the junior event in Thailand.

Manisha Malhotra (IND,384) lost in the semifinals yesterday to Kristen van Elden (AUS,322), 63 64 at the $10K third leg of the Australian satellites [source: TennisAustralia] .. Van Elden has been trouble for Manisha, as she lost to her in the second leg QF last week at Benalla also .. Beti Sekulovski (AUS) whom Manisha had beaten last week in the second round, but had beaten Rushmi in the QF here, went on to win the title this week over Van Elden, who was a runner-up in the last week also .. Miho Saeki (JPN), who had won the last two legs, lost in the first round this time to Abigail Spears (USA) who was a first round victim to Manisha last week .. Good competition in the satallites there .. Despite the loss today, it's been good work by Manisha so far in the three legs - she will go to the masters leg as the 3rd seed, even though she was only the 9th highest ranked player in the field when the circuit started .. She has 21 circuit points to Saeki's 33, and van Elden's 30 .. Manisha picked up 2 more WTA points for this semi, to add to the 1.5 from the last week's QF and the 2.5 (including 1 bonus for beating a top-500 player) for the first leg QF .. The masters leg draw is of size 16 and it gives twice the points than the earlier legs (10 points for the winner, 7 for runner-up, 5 for semi, 3 for QF, 1 for PQF loss) .. It will be at Corowa, New South Wales, starting on the coming wednesday .. Rushmi will also be in the field there .. Both Manisha/ Naida Johnston and Sai-Rushmi should be in the doubles draw as well, if my calculations are right.

By the way, if you have not seen the web address I gave below for the Deccan Gymkhana at Pune (, take a look and read all their updates on the just-concluded ITF satellite leg there (under "events") .. They have press releases from all the days' play and a few pictures as well .. Oliver Marach look happy with the trophy on his head .. He deserves to be happy - it is indeed a very rare accomplishment to win all three legs of a satellite, and it requires supreme focus with tremendous stamina - both mental and physical ..

The Indian junior team (Sunil Kimar Sipaeya, Vinod Kumar Sewa, Rohan Gajjar, Nishank Mishra, Sania Mirza, Megha Vakharia, Sasha Abraham) along Amanjot Singh (sponsored by Paes-en-Sport) and a couple of others on their own, will be in Pattaya City in Thailand for the Grade-2 ITF junior event starting on Monday .. It is a traditional event (Mali Milk Cup, sponsored by the Dairy industry there), in its 24th year .. According to The Nation (Thailand), this year's field is the most competitive ever, with 24 top-100 players .. I believe the boys' draws are of size 64 and some like Sunil Kumar may get first round byes .. Prakash and Stephen Amritraj (listed under USA) should also be there.

.. Previous notes are at Notes for the weeks ending on March 26 ..

I am getting some enquiries from US college coaches who are interested in Indian junior players .. I would like to be able to contact Indian players (some of the coaches are enquiring about specific names) .. If any of the junior players are reading this, please contact me .. Or if any of the other readers know the contact emails/address for any junior player, let me know .. I would like to have a mailing list where I can post general announcements and enquiries from the coaches too .. Please email me - R.Jayakrishnan.